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treefrogs new shop is finally under way!

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:43 pm
by sammer
Since buying our house 12 years ago we've been talking of building a shop in the back yard.
Our alley is one of the few in town that gets plowed in the winter. (to service the dumpster for the condos behind) City water lines are too shallow and need the insulation of the snow so they don't freeze in the winter.
Got a decent tax return to beef up my savings account and decided it was time.

Had the backhoe come in and start moving dirt. Had to find mineral soil, my yard was a vegetable garden for close to 100 yrs so had to go down a fair bit.

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The alley was close to 2' higher than the yard so had to bring in a lot of fill. I think the end tally was, 6 truck loads of pit run, 1 load of 3" crush, and 1 of 3/4 crush.
Top of the new slab is 4" above the alley now.

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Got it all formed into shape and ran the rented compactor for the last time to get the final pad laid out.

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Concrete forms in and rebar bent and tied. Waiting for the concrete truck.

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Had to work the day the concrete arrived so missed the pour and float photos. But got pics once the forms were removed. Nice solid slab 5" of cement in the main slab, reinforced edge is 14" wide at the bottom and 17" thick.

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Time for framing. Let me say now I had to hire a contractor to do 90% of this entire job as I work way too much.

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Walls are up and trusses are here. Fernie requires 98lb/sf snow load so engineered trusses are the only way to go.

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Went with storage trusses so I could have a bit of attic space. Attic area is a bit over 41/2' high by 8' wide 22' long.

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Windows and garage doors are in, roof is on (did that with a buddy one morning)

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And there it sits, my wallet has bled out and waiting for a transfusion.
Final size is 24' wide by 26' long, walls are just shy of 10' wanted to go 10 but building height restrictions made it a few inches shorter.

Got electrical stuff ordered this week and should be able to start trenching for the 3c/#2 teck-90 next set off.
Gonna have 100amps, should be enough for all my needs and then some. (my whole house only had 60a until a few years ago when I upgraded to 200a)

Hope to get it done before the snow flys mid next month, but probably not gonna get finished until next spring realistically.

Will post more pics as this develops, meanwhile still have to find some time to get down to the dungeon to build this years skis...


sam

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:44 pm
by OAC
Woohoo! Great!
.....but it's so unfair to have the mountains so close.... ;)

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:03 pm
by Dtrain
Dude, you must be stoked. Not sure what your timeline was there, but nice to see it all come together. I've been at it for almost a month, and don't even have my forums finished. Love these trusses. I ordered engineered trusses to. My local bylaw only allows 12ft high for external structures so no roof storage me. I like how your yard is flat and nicely landscaped. The back 40 behind my yard is bush and sloped. Ill probably have to dig a full trench around the shop next summer by hand and put some drainage in. You have a nice big size there. I have no alley/lane access, so didn't bother with a garage door. Shop only(man cave), 16x24.

Keep us posted. Id Love to see pics once its set up inside!

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:25 pm
by sammer
OAC wrote:Woohoo! Great!
.....but it's so unfair to have the mountains so close.... ;)
I know it really sucks having to drive 8 mins to the skihill in the morning. ;)

Here's one from in front of my house looking at the "hill" taken last oct.
Beautiful fall morning!

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Dtrain... probably started beginning of june, was where it is now end of july.
took me awhile to get pics off my phone and find the time to sit down and post.

sam

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:03 am
by OAC
sammer wrote:
OAC wrote:Woohoo! Great!
.....but it's so unfair to have the mountains so close.... ;)
I know it really sucks having to drive 8 mins to the skihill in the morning. ;)

Here's one from in front of my house looking at the "hill" taken last oct.
Beautiful fall morning!

sam
Sigh.... :|

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:35 am
by skidesmond
Beautiful! Beautiful view and garage! Now I want a garage :D (and the view!)

Having someone else do the rough building is the way to go. They have all the equipment to bang something like that out. The finish work (insulate, sheet rock, wiring if you know what to do...) you can do your self at your own pace and as the bank account allows you.

That is a wicked view!!!!

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:59 am
by skimann20
Very nice! Reminds me of my garage I had in Denver, almost the exact same size, great choice.

Now I go into my field stone basement... time to move so I can have a bigger garage! ;-)

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 4:00 am
by ben_mtl
sammer wrote: Here's one from in front of my house looking at the "hill" taken last oct.
Beautiful fall morning!

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Honnestly.. This pic almost brought tears to my eyes (it actually did...), I miss those BC mountains so much ! and the view from the street looks very much like what I had when I used to live in Nelson.
Great work on the garage/shop, do you have plans for good heating in "dungeon #2" ? When I built my garage I went with some in-floor heating (pipes in the concrete slab), so efficient and comfortable ! + you don't care about wood dust on electric heaters since there are none !

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:25 am
by twizzstyle
Almost the exact same size as my shop. Awesome, congratulations!!!!

Any considerations for epoxy floor? I did it just after buying my house, and I'll never have a garage/shop without it now. But I know there are some extra considerations/timing involved with a brand new slab. I just did an off-white color with no paint chips, and it really makes everything bright in there.

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:25 pm
by sammer
I've been thinking about epoxy floors a fair bit lately. What product did you use twizz? Did you use a primer? have to acid etch or grind?

As far as heat goes I'm thinking about a reznor unit heater
like this, 60k btu separated combustion.
http://www.totalhomesupply.com/60000-BT ... udas60.htm

I can get a wholesale deal thru work :D
And install it myself.

sam

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:16 am
by MadRussian
if epoxy flooring put on fresh concrete( iirc under 30 days) special epoxy primer have to be used. If you do it next spring no primer necessary.

great shop. My shop is one car garage where all tools on wills and in order to work I have to rollout everything on the driveway. Time-consuming but it is only one option I have

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:17 am
by twizzstyle
I used EpoxyCoat. I did rent a grinder and ground the whole floor, and then also did a muriatic acid wash after that. Nearly 3.5 years later I've had no lifting anywhere. My shop was built in 2005 though (by the previous owner of my house) so I didn't have to worry about new concrete.

http://www.epoxy-coat.com/

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:34 pm
by sammer
Thanks Twiz...
I've been on their site a few times while thinking about this.
Also thinking about just using the resin research epoxy I already have with some tempura or acrylic paint to tint. Just throwing this out there.
4 gallons of RR is cheaper than most floor coating epoxy and any thats left over will find a good home in a pair of skis.
I might have to join garage journal forum to ask about this there.

sam

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:23 am
by gozaimaas
sammer wrote:
OAC wrote: Image
WOOOOW
My entire country doesnt have a mountain as good as that, and you have it at the end of your street!
I cant even begin to explain how jealous I am.
I gotta move to another country!

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:02 pm
by Head Monkey
sammer wrote: As far as heat goes I'm thinking about a reznor unit heater
like this, 60k btu separated combustion.
http://www.totalhomesupply.com/60000-BT ... udas60.htm
I've got that Reznor and highly, highly recommend it.

The new shop looks fantastic. Nice job!!