WRONG 2017

Document your personal work here. Show photos, movies, and share your secrets.

Moderators: Head Monkey, kelvin, bigKam, skidesmond, chrismp

User avatar
Akiwi
Posts: 370
Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:48 am
Location: Olching (Near Munich) Germany

Post by Akiwi » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:56 pm

Realy realy nice!
I guess the resin was a little thicker, or started to harden sooner and therefore not squeezing out as much. You could try warming the epoxy a little to make it a bit thinner. OTOH if it was hardening too soon, then warming might make it worse.
I am nobody. Nobody's perfect, so I must be perfect.

24Dave
Posts: 101
Joined: Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:14 pm

Post by 24Dave » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:49 pm

Gav, thanks for the start point on the drum sanding, and what a gorgeous little board that one is! stunning veneer work.

gav wa
Posts: 370
Joined: Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:58 pm
Location: Perth

Post by gav wa » Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:41 am

So I had a small problem with a board recently.

A board I built for a mate (the one with the monkey image just recently) came with him on a trip to Japan over the last month.
Well day 3 into the trip he starts complaining about his board falling apart, some other crap about maybe "proper built" boards are just stronger and the "glue" works better. (what a wanker)
So anyway I go down to the dry room to check out what has happened, expecting to find a delam or something.
This is his complaint;

Image

So yeah this is apparently a build quality issue, any ideas how to prevent it? HAHA.
Even after a week or so he was still putting out theories of how my builds might be faulty compared to big brand boards. As you can imagine I was very diplomatic after a week of hearing how a massive edge slam must be because of bad build techniques.
Last edited by gav wa on Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:16 am, edited 1 time in total.

burnside
Posts: 16
Joined: Fri Aug 05, 2016 8:54 am
Location: Brooklyn, NY

Post by burnside » Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:47 am

There's some sort of irony here that you can see a rubber capped monstrosity right behind your buddy's board.

Maybe he needs one of those....

User avatar
vinman
Posts: 1347
Joined: Fri Nov 09, 2007 4:16 pm
Location: The tin foil isle
Contact:

Post by vinman » Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:05 am

Annealed edge material?
Fighting gravity on a daily basis
www.Whiteroomcustomskis.com

gav wa
Posts: 370
Joined: Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:58 pm
Location: Perth

Post by gav wa » Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:03 pm

burnside - yeah I think that might be more his pace :)

Vinman - no, I don't anneal any of my edges. That edge is full hardness and in person you can see a definite shape to it, something solid has been impacted.

User avatar
vinman
Posts: 1347
Joined: Fri Nov 09, 2007 4:16 pm
Location: The tin foil isle
Contact:

Post by vinman » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:23 am

� then he really doesn't have anything to complain about
Fighting gravity on a daily basis
www.Whiteroomcustomskis.com

User avatar
richie
Posts: 183
Joined: Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:25 pm
Location: New Zealand
Contact:

Post by richie » Wed Mar 15, 2017 5:51 pm

had it been a "real board" I wonder if it would be even rideable now - more like totally destroyed. And your mate, is he carrying any sort of injury after hitting the tree or rail ?
MonkeyCAM and SnoCAD - https://github.com/mikemag
Ski binding mounting https://github.com/splitn2/DrillSki

Richard Harcourt | www.splitn2.com | Christchurch New Zealand
rich@splitn2.com | www.facebook.com/splitn2

gav wa
Posts: 370
Joined: Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:58 pm
Location: Perth

Post by gav wa » Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:12 pm

Yeah Richie, he was pretty sore for a while from two decent off's he had.
Plus after a week he mentioned that one included a pipe in the ground. I sat there dumbfounded that after talking about hitting a solid steel pipe he was still discussing build quality.
Interesting point, I had made him the board for free, not even cost of materials. He had just split up with his Fiancée and I thought it might help him take his mind off things and move forward. The thanks you get eh HAHA.

I'll still cut out the edge and repair it if he brings it around, mainly just for the practice and I don't like one of my boards out there looking like that.

SleepingAwake
Posts: 123
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:06 pm

Post by SleepingAwake » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:47 am

gav wa wrote:Interesting point, I had made him the board for free, not even cost of materials. He had just split up with his Fiancée and I thought it might help him take his mind off things and move forward. The thanks you get eh HAHA.

I'll still cut out the edge and repair it if he brings it around, mainly just for the practice and I don't like one of my boards out there looking like that.
You sir deserve better friends :D

User avatar
richie
Posts: 183
Joined: Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:25 pm
Location: New Zealand
Contact:

Post by richie » Thu Mar 16, 2017 2:06 pm

gav wa wrote:Yeah Richie, he was pretty sore for a while from two decent off's he had.
Plus after a week he mentioned that one included a pipe in the ground. I sat there dumbfounded that after talking about hitting a solid steel pipe he was still discussing build quality.
Interesting point, I had made him the board for free, not even cost of materials. He had just split up with his Fiancée and I thought it might help him take his mind off things and move forward. The thanks you get eh HAHA.

I'll still cut out the edge and repair it if he brings it around, mainly just for the practice and I don't like one of my boards out there looking like that.
I'm not surprised he's sore! Yes those edges we all use are damn tough, one of my boards I built went for a wee solo mission without me when I tripped and did the total dick move and lost my grip on the board while taking a short side hike outside the field, luckily it was a fairly deserted basin. Well I watched the board take off at mach speed right down to the snow line where its grand finale was a huge air and nose first landing into some very chunky bedrock. I was debating the merits of even bothering getting it, maybe salvage the bindings but I was not expecting the board to survive - yet the front of the board only had a very minor delam and ever so slight edge deformation and was a 5 minute repair - so what ever your mate hit yeah I bet he felt it!!!!!! Tell him to stop being miserable too and be grateful to have a legend mate like you to build him a board that is super generous of you. Cheers
MonkeyCAM and SnoCAD - https://github.com/mikemag
Ski binding mounting https://github.com/splitn2/DrillSki

Richard Harcourt | www.splitn2.com | Christchurch New Zealand
rich@splitn2.com | www.facebook.com/splitn2

User avatar
vinman
Posts: 1347
Joined: Fri Nov 09, 2007 4:16 pm
Location: The tin foil isle
Contact:

Post by vinman » Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:20 am

I once had a buddy who I built a ski for who mounted them with binding freedom inserts. He claimed my core was bad because the inserts kept coming out. I took the skis back and made him new ones. Turns out the inserts had not been cleaned after being machined and were contaminated with metal cutting fluid which caused the epoxy in his mount to not bond to the insert. But of course it was my core that was the problem......

I remounted them with normal screws and skied for a couple years after, many times with that friend so he knew it was not the skis of my fault.
Fighting gravity on a daily basis
www.Whiteroomcustomskis.com

gav wa
Posts: 370
Joined: Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:58 pm
Location: Perth

Post by gav wa » Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:55 am

Hey first build in just over a year. Can't belief it has been that long. Well until I saw how rusty I was putting this board together :D :D

In the end it turned out ok. I was not too sold on the bright orange edge with such a red veneer topsheet but it actually looks sweet.

It's a short board for a short guy, it's only a 150cm

Image

Image


The top is actually pine veneer that I stained to look like a redwood. Looks really nice in person. I added a bit of thinned black stain around the edges to darken it a bit.
Last edited by gav wa on Mon Jun 25, 2018 5:08 am, edited 5 times in total.

gav wa
Posts: 370
Joined: Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:58 pm
Location: Perth

Post by gav wa » Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:01 am

Pretty happy with the new resin I tried out. I stuffed up the heat ramping a little and ended up with a bit of spoon in the base, but for a powder board it might work out pretty good.
The flex is very similar to how my old resin would have worked with this layup, maybe a little stiffer, so that is cool. This board is a mid-stiff flex so should be a fun and lively board to ride.
Weight is about right for this size board, 2650 grams. Maybe just on the light side, but hopefully it still has a bit of damp feel to it, I used 1 inch wide VDS so maybe that will help.

burnside
Posts: 16
Joined: Fri Aug 05, 2016 8:54 am
Location: Brooklyn, NY

Post by burnside » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:27 pm

That board looks awesome. That redwood stain with the orange sidewalls turned out great.

Do you have any tips on staining veneer for topsheets? The advice I've gotten in the past is to stain before pressing so that epoxy on the veneer doesn't create a splotchy pattern.

Post Reply