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kingswood layup video

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Don't know if this has been posted yet, but Kingswood has put out a very nice layup video.:

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Post by MartinJern »

cool!
is the black strips vds och carbon?
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depends on what black strips.. I suppose the strips in the middle of the core is carbon.
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Post by shralpster »

So are those prebent tip spacers? It doesn't look like wood core all the way to the end.

Also, after he jigsaws the pressed ski, is that basically a router mounted to a table to angle the sidewalls? It looks a lot like the concept modeled on this site.
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Post by littleKam »

Yeah looks like he's just using a homemade router table to me. There is a little white piece to elevate the ski as well (for pivoting? not sure). Pretty cool video.
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Post by ed »

That's a good video!

It looks like pre-bending the wood and the bases seems to work quite well. I think I'll give that a go when I press my first set of skis up :)
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Post by alexisg1 »

littleKam wrote:There is a little white piece to elevate the ski as well (for pivoting? not sure). Pretty cool video.
I think this system allow not to worry about the camber...don't you think so ?

nice video indeed.
They put lots of fiberglass layers, i'de be interested in knowing what kind, and also the wieght of their skis....
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alexisg1 wrote: They put lots of fiberglass layers
that`s exactely what i thought. and the funny thing: they`re putting all the glass on top of the core...
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Post by alexisg1 »

I think at 1.08 min you can see he puts 1 layer of glass fiber on the p-tex base, and then probably some carbon strip, but that's all before the core.

One the top side of the ski, he's putting some other cabon stripes and also some reinforcement under the bindlings: between each layer there's a layer of fiberglass.

Doesn't that increase the risk of delamination ?

Maybe the different reinforcer (carbon and alu ?) can't glue together ?
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yeh, 1 under the core, but 3 at the top of it...plus the different reinforcements. why/what do you think increases the risk of delam? don`t get that point...
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Post by iggyskier »

There was a decent thread on here about this video awhile back.

I had a pair of Kingswood protos awhile back. The binding reinforcement strip is titanal. I don't think they do this in all of their skis, as it was mentioned to me as an extra addition.

I think it says on their website that they put some VDS on both sides of the core, plus carbon.

It also says they use triaxial glass....4 layers of it seems like a ton though. Plus carbon....hmmm. I had the normal flexing pair and they were pretty soft. So I don't know what to say about it.

I can say the pair I had held up pretty well, besides some topsheet chipping.
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Post by endre »

[quote="iggyskier"]There was a decent thread on here about this video awhile back.

I think that was an older video, this is a better one.

The glass sheets look very thin, as long as the total amount of glass is not higher than normal, I don't see how it is going to get any stiffer. Maby he does it to improve topsheet finish. Thinner, finer weave gives less print through the topsheet.
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Post by ed »

The wood looks to have had some composite already boneded onto it?
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Post by iggyskier »

endre wrote:
I think that was an older video, this is a better one.
it is the same one.
viewtopic.php?t=388&highlight=kingswood

Interesting point the glass regarding the smoothness of the topsheet. It was extremely smooth on the pair I had.
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Post by dbtahoe »

Check out the hot wax machine in that video.

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Step 1 - Steal your wife's thrift store electric frying pan.
Step 2 - Buy a silicon roller (Grainger?).
Step 3 - Add wax.

Makes 30 to 40 servings

Enjoy.

If anyone finds a resource to buy those rollers, please share.
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