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Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:05 pm
by MontuckyMadman
Yeah you can do vinyle diecuts and finish with an epoxy topcoat. You could try and seal the ink with eeither an acylic spray or urethane spray before you finish it.
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:29 am
by amidnightproject
I wouldn't recommend using a glossy vinyl then trying to poly over it. You *might* be able to get it to stick for awhile but it will chip off. Especially if it's in a high stress area. Matte finish vinyl bonds and covers better.
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 11:41 am
by holmtech
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 11:55 am
by chrismp
Just fill the gap with a ptex repair stick and claim it to be your version of magne traction
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:46 pm
by Dtrain
those look sweet, hope you can fix em' up.
that pid box is badass.
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 8:44 pm
by holmtech
chrismp wrote:Just fill the gap with a ptex repair stick and claim it to be your version of magne traction
Ha! My first thought was of the Praxix skis that have the 3 contact points.
I actually considered just leaving it.
I'm going to cut them out tomorrow. I'm thinking I should be able to fix it without too much pain. I'm not looking forward to it.
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:06 pm
by holmtech
Performed surgery on the worst of the blowouts last night and I think it's going to survive cleanly...
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:20 pm
by vinman
to get a really clean fix for this type of thing you need to cut the edge out and replace it, kind of like when you hit a rock and pull out an edge.
1. cut a rectangular piece of base out using a metal straight edge clamped to the ski as a guide.
2. peel the base patch out
3. cut out the edge area that is the problem with a dremel
4. cut a new edge piece to fit, clamp and epoxy in place
5. epoxy a new base patch in place, maybe with some VDS in there for good measure.
6. re-profile the sidewall
7. base grind as usual
gives a nice clean repair and if you do it well you get nice tight edge seams and all you see on the base is a rectangular score line for the base patch.
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:48 pm
by MontuckyMadman
they make screws for edge replacement as well. pretty slick.
Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 9:52 am
by holmtech
This year's skis...
Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 10:05 am
by holmtech
Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 10:28 am
by twizzstyle
I'm a sucker for bamboo topped skis, those all look fantastic!
Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 10:41 am
by holmtech
Thanks Twiz. I had been hesitant to pull the trigger on the clear vinyl topsheet from Miller over the bamboo, but your totem skis from last year convinced me. I still think it's hard to beat the look of hand painted graphics over the bamboo, but it is definitely much easier to do the printed topsheet. And yeah, still looks amazing. Hand painted takes too much time, and without the plastic over the top they get beat up.
Unfortunately our local source for the bamboo veneer (Urbanata/Bamboo Hardwoods) is no longer making and selling the veneer. I even tried to buy them out of any scraps they might have laying around but got nothing. I've got some scraps leftover that I might get one or two more pair out of.
The bamboo topsheet is so easy to make look good though, maybe this will keep me from getting lazy and stale with the look. I may try to print a full graphics sheet on paper and cover that with vinyl for my next layup.
Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:42 am
by vinman
I'm curious to see if the vinegar with adversely effect the bonding of your epoxy. Vinegar which is acidic will neutralize active mixed epoxy. I use white vinegar to clean uncured epoxy off my tools and tables after layup.
The4 skis looks great but let us know if you experience any sort of delam as a result of the vinegar treatment on the wood.
Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:15 pm
by MontuckyMadman
I thought that about the vineger as well.
Looks like you are also useing different lengths of glass to change your flex pattern, seems like a gamble to me and may make the ski feel hingey? Not a word but maybe you understand what I mean.
I useally try and adjust the core profile for flex change in sections of the ski as opposed to sectional change of composites.