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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:57 am
by falls
I think he uses a router bridge to profile an MDF crib for the planer. Right OAC?

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:11 am
by OAC
Right!

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:49 am
by OAC
And out comes my first wood veneer'ed skis!

First impressions: Great top sheet! (If I may say!) I used the same as "lucasty" http://alpi.it. I found out they have a reseller in Sweden!
Not so impressed by the flex. Little too soft. Maybe I'm a little "greedy" with the FG or I have to make a thicker core. The think process has started...

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This weeks episode of the new comedy show, "0 and a ½ ski builder!": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mnmya0BnXIo

Next episode: The finish!

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:42 pm
by Brazen
Wow. Those are going to be spectacular. What's that mess on the lower left of the right-hand ski? :) Use a carbon fiber stringer on the next pair...

PRO TIP: Don't pull the protective film off of the veneer until you've finished grinding them. Do what I say, not what I do hahaha

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:02 pm
by OAC
Brazen wrote:... What's that mess on the lower left of the right-hand ski? ...
I can't tell you it's a secret! :) Just sanded it a little.
I will leave them to rest and then PU varnish them and polish them, until they shine like your boards!

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:12 pm
by OAC
Brazen wrote: PRO TIP: Don't pull the protective film off of the veneer until you've finished grinding them. Do what I say, not what I do hahaha
Sh*t! Good idea! I didn't consider it as a protective film for the veneer, just a layer for the silicone membrane. I was too eager to see the result.:| Note taken!

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 6:27 pm
by skidesmond
Is the top sheet teak? They look great! Watched your video. When you took the cassette off the bottom of the skis I thought you snapped the skis! I was waiting for the swearing to start :D.

I'm using reconstituted teak for my next pair I'm making for a friend, if my supply of ptex and edges ever arrive. Reconstituted teak, it's a process by which the manufacturer stacks sheets of left over veneer on top of each other, glue it, press it, then re-slice it so it all looks like vertical grain. Much cheaper than normal teak veneer. I think I have enough teak to make a pair for my self too. ;)

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:58 pm
by MontuckyMadman
skidesmond wrote:Is the top sheet teak? They look great! Watched your video. When you took the cassette off the bottom of the skis I thought you snapped the skis! I was waiting for the swearing to start :D.

I'm using reconstituted teak for my next pair I'm making for a friend, if my supply of ptex and edges ever arrive. Reconstituted teak, it's a process by which the manufacturer stacks sheets of left over veneer on top of each other, glue it, press it, then re-slice it so it all looks like vertical grain. Much cheaper than normal teak veneer. I think I have enough teak to make a pair for my self too. ;)
Supplier por favor?

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:35 pm
by OAC
skidesmond wrote:Is the top sheet teak?
Reconstituted teak, it's a process by which the manufacturer stacks sheets of left over veneer on top of each other, glue it, press it, then re-slice it so it all looks like vertical grain. Much cheaper than normal teak veneer. I think I have enough teak to make a pair for my self too. ;)
No, it's what you describe...slices from left overs...I'm told. Maybe it's not veneer by definition...but it's very effectfull and light!

@MM: I guess you pointed at SD?

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:50 pm
by MontuckyMadman
yeah that alpi stuff looks cool. they have some wild colors.


I never looked into what it would cost in the us.

http://alpi.it/uk/ListaProdotti.asp?IDSC=14

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:18 am
by OAC
Close to a finished product...(maybe):

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Tomorrow: some logos, and more varnish....

(Strong varnish/laquer can't be healthy?...)(...even with a mask with recommended filter level...)(...I'm glad I'm not doing this all day!)

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:07 am
by skidesmond
OAC wrote:
skidesmond wrote:Is the top sheet teak?
Reconstituted teak, it's a process by which the manufacturer stacks sheets of left over veneer on top of each other, glue it, press it, then re-slice it so it all looks like vertical grain. Much cheaper than normal teak veneer. I think I have enough teak to make a pair for my self too. ;)
No, it's what you describe...slices from left overs...I'm told. Maybe it's not veneer by definition...but it's very effectfull and light!

@MM: I guess you pointed at SD?
I get my veneer from www.certainlywood.com. They are located in upstate NY. They have a wide variety of exotic veneers, no wild colors like Alpi.

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:13 am
by Richuk
Great job - you must be pleased. The reduction in waste is amazing. Finishing must have been a doddle : )

Like the look of the tip moulds - any close up of the results? Have found a guy selling kevlar tows for £0.07 per metre (3000 denier) if you are thinking of lacing your base.

SD - Teak is ok, but its not that stable. You might end up with a lot of cracking, which might be worse as it is end grain. I hope I am wrong, but might be worth doing a small sample. I think Luca must have taken the decision to optimise the veneer by choosing straight grain with reasonably high janka hardness. You can put your own colour into veneer SD

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:42 am
by skidesmond
Thanks Rich. A test sample is a good idea. Especially since the teak I'm using will be for a friend.

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:12 am
by OAC
Richuk wrote: Like the look of the tip moulds - any close up of the results? Have found a guy selling kevlar tows for £0.07 per metre (3000 denier) if you are thinking of lacing your base.
Close ups coming up. What is "lacing your base"?